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This is the Agile Uprising Podcast. Agile Uprising is a purpose-built network that focuses on the advancement of the agile mindset and global professional networking between leading agilists. We will remain agnostic of certifying bodies and focus purely on the advancement of the agile craft. Our network will evolve over time, and at the core our online community will remain free to join - forever. We will leverage both traditional and emerging communication and collaboration channels to explore various topics of interest with a direct focus on removing external influences from sponsors, partners and other organizations. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher or your favorite podcasting app!
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Agile Uprising is a purpose-built network that focuses on the advancement of the agile mindset and global professional networking between and among practicing agilists.


This is a group founded by passionate practitioners for passionate practitioners, and not a revenue generating organization.

We will remain agnostic of certifying bodies, removing external influences such as sponsors, partners and other organizations allowing us to focus purely on the advancement of the agile craft.

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Oct 29, 2017

Create Great Teams via Self SelectionSelf selection, the fastest and most efficient way to form stable teams, is based on a belief that people are at their happiest and most productive if they can choose what they work on and who they work with.

Self selection is a radical idea to some: Trust people to know best and let them decide which team they should work in.

Listen to this episode and learn:

  • Why this works at scale (Dunbar would be so proud)
  • How to organize an event where everyone gets together and chooses which team they want to work in
  • Long term measurable impacts of self-selection

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Oct 1, 2017

Dynamic Reteaming

This week, our guest is Heidi Helfand, Director, Engineering Excellence at Procore Technologies and author of a new book Dynamic Reteaming.

Our discussion challenges the notion that we need to keep our software develop teams “the same” in order to be successful.

And instead, as agilists and coaches our goal should be helping teams to self-reflect and shift from working in silos to working as cohesive and perhaps non-persistent teams.  

In short, to help them dynamically reteam, of their own volition, when there’s value and wisdom to be gained by doing so.

This episode is hosted by Andy Cleff and Paul Elia.

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Sep 4, 2017

What do you do when your leadership attempts to hijack your agile transformation to make it more waterfall? Join our hosts Paul Elia, Andrew Leff, and Jay Hrcsko as they discuss the idea of "usurping agile." While the conversation ostensibly starts with this subject it veers off to cover points, trust, project managers in agile, organizational change, and host of other topics. Enjoy!

Aug 7, 2017

Join our hosts James Gifford and Ryan Lockard for a fantastic discussion with pioneering Lean thought leaders, Mary and Tom Poppendeick.  Mary and Tom were gracious enough to come on the show and share stories from the early days of Lean, the issues with waterfall development, the unique stance on backlogs and the product owner role, a discussion on Lean Value Mapping and a discussion on diversity in software engineering. 

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Aug 2, 2017

What happens when your organization is not ready for agile but you know this methodology will help?  What types of behaviors or activities could you introduce to start your enterprise along the path to agility, without explicitly saying so?  Join our hosts Andrew Leff, James Gifford, Troy Lightfoot, and Jay Hrcsko as they discuss answers to these questions and many more as part of "undercover agile!

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Jul 24, 2017

On this episode, the Agile Coaching Exchange Atlanta chapter welcomes Arlen Bankston, Executive VP and Managing Partner for LitheSpeed. Arlen has been actively involved in the application and evolution of Agile software development processes such as Scrum, Kanban and Extreme Programming for over a decade and a half. He is also a Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, and was an early adopter in the application of broader lean principles to agile methods to deepen theoretical understanding and drive organizational change. He was one of the earliest Certified ScrumMaster Trainers, and he specializes in the role of the Product Owner, drawing upon first-hand experience in product design and management.

Agile and Lean ideas originated outside of the domains of software and Information Technology (IT) and are beginning a return to these broader origins. Join us as we explore how non-IT teams are benefiting from the same mindset that we use to develop great software, to reach customers and to promote and launch products and services. Our podcast takes place during ACE Atlanta’s monthly chapter meeting. The conversation is expertly guided by Jenn Fix who leads digital strategy and agile process for the Rollins Center, a non-profit program of the Atlanta Speech School. Non-IT areas discussed include Marketing, HR, Finance, and Federal Government.

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Jul 20, 2017

"it was all going great until someone brought up Metallica's Load album..."

Join our panel of Troy Lighfoot, Rob Legatie, and Jay Hrcsko as they ostensibly talk about agile while discussing their love of music.  They discuss gateway bands and compare them to "gateway agile," concepts like the lean startup, inspect and adapt, and continuous delivery as applied to the music industry, as well as their 2017 top album picks, the impact of the internet on music, and much much more!


Rob’s Picks:

Melvins -

Mastodon -


Troy’s Picks:

311 -

Ghost -

Opeth -

Opeth -

Childish Gambino -


Jay’s Picks:

Artificial Brain -

Full of Hell -

Deez Nuts -

Dying Fetus -

Origin -



Extremity Retained -

The Song Machine -



Pop music has a formula that a computer can mimic?

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Jul 16, 2017

Join our hosts Jay Hrcsko and Andrew Leff as they sit down to discuss SAFe 4.5 with none other than Dean Leffingwell himself. The group discusses multiple features of the new update, which include SAFe as a configurable framework, the implementation road map, and an emphasis on DevOps. The panel also reviews other changes for 4.5, such as the role of risk and compliance, how agile architecture fits into the framework, and a slew of other topics!

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Jul 11, 2017

On this episode, Ryan Lockard welcomes Brett Schuchert, Senior Consultant with Industrial Logic.  Brett has 25+ years of teaching and consulting experience. He has worked with numerous Fortune 500 firms across a number of industries and countries to train, mentor, and coach developers and non-developers in Agile/Lean methodologies. Brett has led several Agile in the Large Transitions (> 100 people) and Agile/XP Immersions for both online and traditional businesses spanning industries from oil/gas to insurance to rental car providers. His Agile coaching style is immersive and delivers tangible results in areas from automated tests and architectural assessment to the honing of technical skills such as Test Driven Development.

In this episode, we dive into the topic of DevOps for legacy systems.  The show begins with our host butchering another guests name, then Brett providing his description of what Legacy Systems are, and what DevOps is.  The show continues to dive into the cultural and mindset shifts required to implement DevOps.  We talk about the three critical elements to improving delivery flow:

  1. Handoffs
  2. Queues
  3. Work in progress

Brett gives a number of examples from his past where focusing on these three items significantly improves delivery.  We also dive into the impact distributed team have on impacting delivery flow. As the talk comes to an end, we reflect on the absence of tools in our conversation, and how tools are secondary to mindset shifting.

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Jul 3, 2017

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We are joined by James Grenning, co-author of the agile manifesto, this week.  James joins to discuss his training framework for Test Driven Development; TDD Guided by Zombies.  James sits with Ryan Lockard and discusses unit testing, TDD and how both apply to his ZOMBIE paradigm.

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Jun 25, 2017

This episode of the Agile Uprising is sponsored by Lean Agile Intelligence

This week we come live from the Music City Agile conference from Nashville Tommy Norman and Gaines Kergosien along with our host James Gifford. Tommy and Gains sit and discuss the work that goes into establishing a conference and the approach that goes into creating a conference.  Learn about the work that goes into deciding on conference track selection, venue importance, scheduling, and the importance of networking breaks.

The talk also covers the emergence of the agile scene in Tennessee and the large degree of technical Meetup groups.  To subscribe to the Music City Agile group, fill out this form.

As the show comes to an end, the idea of blending conferences.  Tommy and Gaines are asking you, the listener, to share your thoughts about blending topics/workshops – please join the show discussion on the Coalition to do just that.

Jun 18, 2017

Join our hosts, Chris Murman, Jay Hrcsko, and Andy Cleff as they dive into the discussion around Red-Amber-Green (RAG) status reporting and the use of this information radiation.  This topic came from Andy’s Coalition post “Why Red is Good”.  The post has quite a few comments – which you are welcomed to join into. 

The conversation covers traditional use of the RAG status, modern adaptations like the Spotify Health Check model and how the hosts are currently using RAG status.  Andy Cleff dives into his current usage, starting all projects at Red as there will inevitably be the highest degree of uncertainty at the beginning of a project.  Andy also shares commentary on this article about RAG status reporting in the US Military.

Unfortunately, we were unable to find a video of a ferret being introduced to a kindergarten resulting in chaos (sorry Jay), but here is the closest thing we have to satisfy the metaphor introduced towards the end of the show.

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Jun 13, 2017

In this episode, we welcome David Horowitz on the show with our host James Gifford.  David and James take a deep dive into the reality of distributed teams, the importance of continuous improvement and the effective facilitation of agile retrospectives.

David tells the story of his career from a software developer, to agile coach, and finally his creation of Retrium, and agile retrospective product/company.

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Jun 4, 2017

This episode of the Agile Uprising Podcast found its start in a blog post Chris Murman posted on his (must subscribe) blog.  The post synthesizes the recent white paper from 6point6 that essentially says we aren’t “doing” agile right.  6point6 commissioned a survey of 300 CIOs in the UK and the US to examine their experiences of Agile and measure how successfully the principles of Agile are being applied and executed. One of the key findings was “British business is set to waste an estimated £37 billion on failed Agile IT projects over the course of the next 12 months”.

Our hosts, Jay Hrscko, Chris Murman, Andrew Leff and Ryan Lockard talk through various parts of the white paper and the subsequent blog post from Chris.  We talk about the impact of agile-as-a-business, the reality of distributed teams, team commitment, the criticality of modern DevOps and the show closes with a passionate conversation about non-functional requirements (NFRs).

Through the show, you will hear mentions of Chris’ Texas-ness, Ryan’s love of sour beer and Jay’s metal album of the year.

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May 28, 2017

Join a conversation with Llewellyn Falco and our host Ryan Lockard about Learning and Habits.  Llewellyn is an independent agile coach. He discovered strong-style pair programming which evolved into Mob Programming. He is creator of the open source testing tool ApprovalTests ( He spends most of his time programming in Java and C# specializing in improving legacy code.He is also co-founder of  

This show found its beginning in April 2017 at the Agile Alliance Technical Conference in Boston, MA.  Llewellyn, Ryan and Arlo Belshee discussed the merits and neuroscience of human learning.  Llewellyn is an avid student of learning and a great voice on these topics.  

The conversation really shifts into the core topic when Ryan mentions the great book 'The Power of Habit' by Charles Duhigg.  (If you have not read this book, you should consider picking it up).  From here Llewellyn shares some personal lifehacks he has been experimenting with.  The conversation then goes into how habits and learning can be effectively invoked in engineering, agile teams, or in human behavior in general.

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May 21, 2017

Disclaimer: We are aware of some audio issues with this show and had an internal discussion about the readiness of this content.  We sent the show through multiple audio processes and mitigated the noise as best as we could.  Following this show, we have invested in a significant recording upgrade which should be heard on future episodes.  Thanks to the audience as we increment and improve through our podcast learning.

Join our panel, including Jay Hrcsko, Jason Cusack, Andrew Leff and Ryan Lockard as they discuss the 11th annual State of Agile report from Version One.  The report and discussion are both on the Agile Uprising Coalition on this thread.

The discussion traverses the areas of distributed teams, reasons why companies decide to work with the agile mindset, software quality, DevOps, the famous framework discussion and of course the scaling conversation.

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May 13, 2017

We are very pleased to share this episode on Agile Architecture featuring the return of Martin Fowler and the first visit from Rebecca Wirfs-Brock.  You can hear Martin’s first interview with us (as part of the Agile Manifesto Author project) here

Martin is a friend of the Uprising podcast and more information about him is found in our previous post with him.  Rebecca is a person Martin himself says helped sharpen his agile mindset and someone from which he draws inspiration.  She is the inventor of Responsibility-Driven Design, the first behavioral approach to object design.  She also wrote about object role stereotypes in 1992 in a Smalltalk Report article and this influenced the UML notion of stereotypes. Her invention of the conversational (two-column) form of use cases was then popularized by Larry Constantine. Most of the more recent "driven" design approaches acknowledge their roots and the influence of RDD.

In this episode, Martin quickly makes reference to an article he wrote for the IEEE Software magazine, which you can read here.  Martin and Rebecca provide a very clear definition of what architecture is to start the conversation which then leads into an honest conversation about how architecture is defined in the product’s unique context.  They also provide great insight into the dynamics of what can be and cannot be considered architecture, and how the definition is fluid based on the engineering context.

We discuss the impact of unit tests on architecture, and to what degree tests and emergence define architecture, vs. up front design.

We also discuss the importance of domain models, and who should be involved in the definition of the domain model – specifically the requirement that the business folks be in the conversation.

As the interview draws to a close, we discuss the importance of documentation in agile architecture.  The discussion covers the “the code is the documentation” stance to more comprehensive documentation stances.

This interview took place in May 2017 and was hosted by Ryan Lockard (@AgilePHL)

You can learn more about this episode at this post on the Agile Uprising Coalition!

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May 1, 2017

In this live edition of the Agile Uprising Podcast, join Heart of Agile organizer James Gifford along with newly minted Agile Uprising board member Chris Murman and existing board member Colleen Johnson as they recap day one of the Heart of Agile conference, Pittsburgh.  We wont say this is the only agile podcast ever from a boat, but it is darn sure the best one :-)

James, Chris and Colleen share some insight in to the beauty of Pittsburgh, the structure of the conference and what Alistair Cockburn had in mind with the Heart of Agile movement.  James provides some unprecedented insight into what it takes to plan a conference and what make HOA unique.

Chris and Colleen also go into some of the insight they shared in there talks at the conference.

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James Gifford: @scrummando |
Chris Murman: @chrismurman |
Colleen Johnson: @scrumhive |

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Apr 24, 2017

This week we welcome Jurgen Appelo to the show.  Jurgen is aspeaker and  writer, pioneering management to help creative organizations survive and thrive in the 21st century.

Jurgen calls himself a creative networker. But sometimes he’s a writer, speaker, trainer, entrepreneur, illustrator, manager, blogger, reader, dreamer, leader, freethinker, or… Dutch guy. has called him a Top 50 Leadership Expert, a Top 50 Leadership Innovator and a Top 100 Great Leadership Speaker. Since 2008, Jurgen writes a popular blog at NOOP.NL, offering ideas on the creative economy, agile management, organizational change, and personal development. He is the author of the book Management 3.0, which describes the role of the manager in agile organizations. And he wrote the little book How to Change the World, which describes a supermodel for change management. His most recent book is called #Workout / Managing for Happiness, which offers you practical ideas to engage workers, improve work, and delight clients.

We were very lucky to spend an hour with Jurgen to discuss his various projects, his 12 steps for happiness, his recent stock sale for Management 3.0 and agile practices in general.

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Apr 16, 2017

Thank god Jeff Gothelf became a broke musician :-).  Being fed up with his music career, Jeff entered the world of user design and set forth his journey of discovery of Lean UX and product discovery.  Jeff is the author of the industry groundbreaking books Lean UX and his latest work Sense and Respond.

Jeff spends a perfect amount of time speaking with Colleen Johnson and Andrew Leff about shifting from outputs to outcomes - one of his core principles in product discovery.  Jeff describes outcome measures when teams begin to see shipping a feature as the beginning of the process.  He posits that measures do not have value until you shift customer behavior.

Jeff describes the discovery phase as the catalyst for moving from doubt to certainty.  And is realized when we work in small batches and remove waste; but with a humble reality we might be wrong.

Jeff also spends time discussing the intent of Roadmaps vs. financial planning, and how both have value but are not synonyms. 

Jeff also mentions his talk "Scaling the values", you can find links to these talks below:

Mind the Product

Medium Post


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Apr 9, 2017

Come learn about the Kanban Method, directly from its creator, David Anderson.  David J. Anderson is a thought leader in managing effective technology development. He leads a consulting, training and publishing business dedicated to developing, promoting and implementing sustainable evolutionary approaches for management of knowledge workers. He has 30 years experience in the high technology industry. He has led software teams delivering superior productivity and quality using innovative agile methods at large companies such as Sprint, Motorola, and Microsoft. David is the author of three books, Agile Management for Software Engineering – Applying the Theory of Constraints for Business ResultsKanban – Successful Evolutionary Change for your Technology Business, and Lessons in Agile Management: On the Road to Kanban. David is Chairman of Lean Kanban, Inc., a business focused on management solutions throughout the world.

This interview was conducted by hosts Colleen Johnson, Andrew Leff and Ryan Lockard.  We covered a variety of topics including; the history of the Kanban Method, the Kanban core values, Kanban as a scaling method, common misconceptions about Kanban and what are the most effective metrics in a lean organization.  David also shares his appreciation for the new Eric Brechner book, Agile Project Management with Kanban.


As the interview comes to a close, we are treated to the first class travel tips and airline recommendations from the master of travel himself :-)

Be sure to check out the training opportunities at Lean Kanban University and the Kanban Leadership Retreat.

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Apr 2, 2017

In this episode, Ryan Lockard speaks with Kelly Waters. Kelly is the CEO of 101 Ways and also works for clients as an Interim Director or Executive Consultant.  He has 30 years experience in the software industry, working his way from developer to tech lead to project manager to CTO.  He has over 20 years experience in the media/publishing industry and has also worked as Transformation Practice Lead for ThoughtWorks Australia, advising executives in the financial services industry on agile transformation.  In 2010, Kelly won an award for being the ‘Most Valuable Agile Player in the UK’ and his blog ‘All About Agile’ was started in 2007 helping people with all aspects of agile adoption.

Kelly shares with us his unique insight in the growth of Agile and the international perspective he has working in the US, Europe and Australia.  Also, hear about the explosive growth 101 Ways has realized in the past 12 months.

Read more about Kelly at 101 Ways, and connect with him on LinkedIn.

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Mar 30, 2017

(Audio issues corrected)

In this spirited episode, our five panelists (Jay Hrcsko, Troy Lightfoot, James Gifford, Andrew Leff, and Ryan Lockard) discuss the current position of agile certifications and where they see Agile heading. At times lively, the discussion covers certifications from Scrum Alliance,, SAFe, PMI and others. With varying views on the relevance of certification, some healthy debate arises.

In this episode, you will hear several members speak to the training skills of Dave Prior, you can find his upcoming trainings here. We also discuss Alistair Cockburn's Agile Master Class, which has some international sessions currently open for registration here. And you hear James make several mentions to a W.L. Gore article, which you can read here.

Mar 12, 2017

This week's episode is hosted by Jay Hrcsko and Ryan Lockard, and they welcome Jason Little - author of Lean Change Management.  Jason joins us to discuss what change management is, how change management impacts agile transformation and how you can begin to effectively lead change.

Jason also discusses the one thing most leaders get wrong about positively leading change.

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Feb 1, 2017

Chris Murman is the subject of our latest Member Spotlight.  Chris is an IT consultant, he is constantly in search of ways to make the work we do better. This means bringing a lean focus to the products we make, a holistic approach to agile business processes, or an intense focus on the technologies of tomorrow.

Colleen Johnson interviews Chris, and they discuss Chris' background, areas of interest and his unique view of agile.

Please consider joining the Agile Uprising Coalition, and if you are interested in being interviewed for a future Member Spotlight, reach out to one of our board members.

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