Feb 16, 2025

In this episode of the Agile Uprising podcast, host Andy Cleff chats with Simon Holzapfel about how humans organized and learned together before industrial-age practices disrupted our natural patterns. 

Through examples from anthropology, biology, and neuroscience, they explore what ancient societies and our own biology can teach us about effective collaboration at scale.

The conversation challenges common assumptions about organizational hierarchy and control, suggesting that agile principles aren't new inventions, but rather a rediscovery of how humans naturally work and learn together. 

For leaders and change agents, this episode offers practical steps toward creating organizations that work with, rather than against, human nature.

Contact Info

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-holzapfel-99081b24/
• crowboxpartners.com/
• L-eaf lab

Related shows:

• Agile in Education: Getting the Groove Back
• Agile in Education: Going with the Flow - In Pursuit of More Adaptive Ways of Working
• The Triune Brain: Myth or Fact?
• Virtues for the Change Journey: Episode 2: Resilience - Rising Above
• Sociocracy-related Agile Uprising Podcasts
• Beyond Agile: Cooperative Ventures with Matt Barcomb
• Manifesto Author Series

Read More:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebelivka_(archaeological_site)
• Dawn of Everything
• Guns Germs and Steel
• Sand Talk

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